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flowsnowboardn:

Oh, the places you’ll go with Micah Hoogeveen and Flow Snowboarding
@micahhoogeveen @flowsnowboardn

#FlowSnowboarding #FindYourFlow #Snowboarding

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Healing Advice. (Druid) - Forums - World of Warcraft

indirispeaks:

terminalpleasure:

j-c-m-d:

Ball is in their court.

FAQ about Shrilinda and Harassment

Why are people attacking Shrilinda?

People don’t like Shrilinda for a few reasons. Though it is true that she is a hypocrite and annoyingly stupid, the main problems people have with Shrilinda relate to:

  1. When she killed her sick cat by not taking it to the vet and instead asked for advice on a video game forum which she ignored anyway. She doubled down on this later by saying “It was just a cat” and by pointing out that she never really wanted the cat to begin with.
  2. Her homophobic rant about the Boy Scouts letting in children who might be gay. She later denied she said this and got people to white knight for her, but the text still exists in Tumblr reblogs so her friends just got embarrassed and turned on her as well.
  3. Her habit of needling and trolling people she doesn’t like and then complaining about how harassed she is when they respond. You could see this in that now-deleted “For Lordaeron” thread which she came in to troll.

Who is Lovetoy and why do people keep bringing it up?

An expansion or two ago, Shrilinda decided to become an anti-ERP and anti-Goldshire crusader with a “think of the children” slogan and threads on how to report anyone you suspected of ERPing in Goldshire to “clean up the server.” Around the same time, in true Republican politician style, Shrilinda got caught ERPing with a low-level alt named Lovetoy. It ties in to Shrilinda’s pattern of hypocrisy.

Can’t you just leave her alone?

Yes, but rather than solve the problem that just allows Shrilinda to troll to her heart’s content.

A long time ago, I made a thread to reconcile with people I had fought against. Shrilinda said she would like to stop fighting with me, so I agreed and said that we should not fight but not interact. Shrilinda ignored the “not interacting” bit and continued to troll my threads, post snide remarks about me and harass me even though I repeatedly asked her to stop and reminded her of our agreement. I warned her several times and yet she persisted in attacking me. She even trolled the thread I made calling for a zero-tolerance policy for harassment — a policy which she now claims should protect her from the repercussions of her trolling.

When I said that I had had enough and that our deal was off, Shrilinda, predictably, lied and accused me of being the one who broke it. Unfortunately, the timestamps on Shrilinda’s “proof” did not match the period of our agreement, while her own attacks on me during that time were well documented.

Shrilinda wants to be left alone so that she can freely attack other people. She gets angry and says she is being stalked and harassed when people push-back against her disgusting behavior. It is the same as it was during her Goldshire campaign — “These people should be banned for ERPing but if I ERP then it is my private business.” Shrilinda is a hypocrite and a liar who has been given chance after chance to change but has instead remained a malicious server parasite. Shrilinda isn’t a victim of anything more than her own hatred — hatred for gay people, for RPers she doesn’t like, for guilds that booted her. She will never find peace because she is unable to live peacefully with her neighbors.

What do you want from Shrilinda?

She should move to WrA and harass them for a change and leave Moon Guard alone.

How do people like Melithria NOT know?  Willful ignorance?

In part.

Shrilinda is also painting a picture of how people lie about her and she is such a victim. Remember that last guy who came in to whiteknight for her and his proof that she had never made the Boy Scout rant was a screenshot of Shrilinda saying “They are lying about me!”

And then when he got linked the actual ranted he crawled away in shame saying he had been misled.

People are happy to be lied to if it preserves their comfort. It’s much easier to believe your friend is a victim than it is to drop a friend for being a scumbag.

What do you mean my friend is a pedo/stalker/bigot/hater-of-baby-animals? I’ve known her for years and she’s never told me she did any of those things!

— every friend of a WoW scumbag ever

Healing Advice. (Druid) - Forums - World of Warcraft

j-c-m-d:

Ball is in their court.

FAQ about Shrilinda and Harassment

Why are people attacking Shrilinda?

People don’t like Shrilinda for a few reasons. Though it is true that she is a hypocrite and annoyingly stupid, the main problems people have with Shrilinda relate to:

  1. When she killed her sick cat by not taking it to the vet and instead asked for advice on a video game forum which she ignored anyway. She doubled down on this later by saying “It was just a cat” and by pointing out that she never really wanted the cat to begin with.
  2. Her homophobic rant about the Boy Scouts letting in children who might be gay. She later denied she said this and got people to white knight for her, but the text still exists in Tumblr reblogs so her friends just got embarrassed and turned on her as well.
  3. Her habit of needling and trolling people she doesn’t like and then complaining about how harassed she is when they respond. You could see this in that now-deleted “For Lordaeron” thread which she came in to troll.

Who is Lovetoy and why do people keep bringing it up?

An expansion or two ago, Shrilinda decided to become an anti-ERP and anti-Goldshire crusader with a “think of the children” slogan and threads on how to report anyone you suspected of ERPing in Goldshire to “clean up the server.” Around the same time, in true Republican politician style, Shrilinda got caught ERPing with a low-level alt named Lovetoy. It ties in to Shrilinda’s pattern of hypocrisy.

Can’t you just leave her alone?

Yes, but rather than solve the problem that just allows Shrilinda to troll to her heart’s content.

A long time ago, I made a thread to reconcile with people I had fought against. Shrilinda said she would like to stop fighting with me, so I agreed and said that we should not fight but not interact. Shrilinda ignored the “not interacting” bit and continued to troll my threads, post snide remarks about me and harass me even though I repeatedly asked her to stop and reminded her of our agreement. I warned her several times and yet she persisted in attacking me. She even trolled the thread I made calling for a zero-tolerance policy for harassment — a policy which she now claims should protect her from the repercussions of her trolling.

When I said that I had had enough and that our deal was off, Shrilinda, predictably, lied and accused me of being the one who broke it. Unfortunately, the timestamps on Shrilinda’s “proof” did not match the period of our agreement, while her own attacks on me during that time were well documented.

Shrilinda wants to be left alone so that she can freely attack other people. She gets angry and says she is being stalked and harassed when people push-back against her disgusting behavior. It is the same as it was during her Goldshire campaign — “These people should be banned for ERPing but if I ERP then it is my private business.” Shrilinda is a hypocrite and a liar who has been given chance after chance to change but has instead remained a malicious server parasite. Shrilinda isn’t a victim of anything more than her own hatred — hatred for gay people, for RPers she doesn’t like, for guilds that booted her. She will never find peace because she is unable to live peacefully with her neighbors.

What do you want from Shrilinda?

She should move to WrA and harass them for a change and leave Moon Guard alone.

Blood of Lordaeron is the #1 RPing guild in NA

gawain2:

terminalpleasure:

It’s official!

this sickens me…

I agree. The Soulbound really should be number 1.

I feel this is the method behind most of these anon posts.

I feel this is the method behind most of these anon posts.

(Source: ouijathemovie)

Moon Guard Forum Analysis: Why the Tide Won’t Turn

vonds:

perfectperfidy:

terminalpleasure:

In this post, I am going to explain a little bit about how the MG forum works. I think it will be helpful to everyone who posts on the forums or in the MG tumblr network — even those who hate me.

Most people think that popularity is the key to success on the forums. You will frequently hear things like “popularity contest” or “highschool” brought up to explain why one groups is on top and the other is not. Though some people are popular, popularity is not required to shape discourse on the forums.

You will notice that when we have had a thread like “For Lordaeron!” you saw a bunch of random haters coming together and then getting emboldened by the presence of other posters united only by their dislike of BoL. The downvotes swell and anons start writing to MG Secrets about how people are finally seeing through the “bullshit.” These haters get their hearts up, they think: Today the tide will turn. This will be the thread where everyone sees BoL for what it is and they are finally ousted from the server.

What they do not understand is that the tide will never turn, and that is because the main driver here is not popularity. There is no tipping point — no magic number of haters that once reached will cause BoL to collapse. This should have been clear to people from the days when people like Vesp and myself had many more haters than supporters. Everyone on MG outside of BoL could hate it, and BoL would still dominate the forum and the MG Tumblr scene.

But if it isn’t popularity, then what is it?

There is only one real weapon available on the forums and that is shaming. Most people don’t like to look like a fool or get ridiculed. People don’t want to be hated and thus they seek popularity. Even trolls, you will notice, always long to be accepted by the community in the end — and as with Khorrosh the other day — the community is happy to try and accept them. No more disturbance, no more people saying mean things…

So, with BoL as our example, haters run into two problems:

  1. They don’t have the skills to make BoL members look foolish
  2. Not everyone can be shamed

It’s no secret, in fact even in the WrA guy’s diatribe it’s mentioned, that BoL has attracted and converted the best writers, artists, and wits on Moon Guard. If people get into a snap-fight on the boards, the haters are just not going to win. Even if they were able to get up on one member of BoL, another member would step in to say something funny that would make the hater look bad.

Now, the haters won’t admit openly that they look bad — and if some are reading this I am sure they are disagreeing — but that is what we know happens. They get chumped in public. They hold grudges and spend their lives tilting at windmills trying to regain the self-respect that got shot down when they were exposed on the forums. The cycle never ends and they just get more and more bitter (see Myronus). They need to post from unknown alts because they already know what the end result is going to be — they lose before they begin.

Haters are turned into jokes and they get outwitted and outplayed in text for all to see, and I don’t see this changing during the next expansion (though it isn’t the final release — Finaj). If anything, BoL attracts more people through these little dances because it becomes clear who the clever and funny people are. Without boasting, I can go round after round with every member of the Stormwind Guard for the rest of my life and they will not land a punch. That is not a monument to my wit as much as a comment on the substandard quality of available challengers.

Got that? Haters can’t win the fights because they aren’t very good at wordplay.

But let’s say a hater could win a fight. Let’s say a hater took down every member of BoL…

BoL would still not collapse because Vesp would not care. That is my guess, but because I don’t want to speak for him, let me say for myself that if every poster on MG turned against me and harassed me in every thread I would not stop posting because I hold the opinion of other MG posters in such little regard.

I admit that isn’t a terribly nice thing to say, but it is true. At the end of the day, I don’t give a fuck what you or anyone else thinks if it conflicts with what I believe to be right. I will not be impeded in my goals or prevented from doing what I wish by communal disapproval. Some people cannot be shamed because the idea of “the community” is already meaningless to them.

Popularity will not save you from shame — just ask Melyria or Lanuria or Golavar— but it is not popularity that allows BoL to operate unchecked on the forum.

BoL will die when Vesp decides to kill it, and until that day it will attract new blood from the people who read the boards and think “Damn, that was a stylish way he just rolled that applehead.” You are stuck with me until the day I get totally tired of WoW, and there is nothing you can do about it except maybe building a better game.

Fuck yeah. I feel the same about the forums and it’s not a case of being “above the sheep” or whatever. When I was new to the forums (and shamefully for quite a while after) I generally sided with the self-styled community because well, you just do right?

However, the ‘community’ has proven again and again that it is happy to tolerate and protect scumbags (racists, homophobes, sex offenders, etc), enjoys bullying people (as long as they’re the right people) and that any victim who speaks out publicly suffers as much if not far more censure than the aggressor; all for the terrible crime of ‘causing drama’. 

It feels silly being serious about this stuff because the mantra “it’s just a game” does hold merit. BoL could just as easily be a friday-night bowling team. However the people are real and I think that WoW attracts the shy and the naive, who are especially vulnerable to predators. It’s our duty as decent human beings to try and create a discouraging atmosphere to scum.

So the part where I was ridiculed because my hallucinations weren’t original enough, among other things—was that still a brave act discouraging the scum, or did I deserve it? :P

I understand it is tough when not even your husband is willing to read your blog, but please stay in your own little hole. We don’t have spare attention to keep tossing you. Go make friends.

I can’t believe I forgot all about this song off of Violator. I used to love this one.

Waiting for the Night to Fall — Depeche Mode. Live.